Comments on: Process Control and Luck https://6sigma.com/process-control-and-luck/ Six Sigma Certification and Training Fri, 28 Feb 2025 07:08:23 +0000 hourly 1 By: Colin Gare https://6sigma.com/process-control-and-luck/#comment-25269 Fri, 14 May 2010 03:09:21 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=2057#comment-25269 This item really resonates with me and it makes the point very simply, which is useful when many of us are working with people who have had little real exposure to the fundamentals. Once people get this point, I think we then need to lead them to realise that ‘control’ generally requires more than just noting results.

When people talk about measurement and data, I find they often jump from input measures [eg volumes] to output/results measures [eg cost, timeliness], without any consideration of what is needed IN the process to enable its operators to effectively manage it as it happens. I prefer to call these “process indicators”. The analogy would be trying to reliably drive a car at a set speed without a speedometer.

Without appropriate process indicators, even if they are not quantitative, the people actually doing or controlling the work/process can do nothing to assure the desired outcome in an environment of variables outside of their control. Of course, in many simple cases, adherance to standard work may be a sufficient process indicator. But it is surprising how often even this most basic form of control is missing. Frequently, the standard process itself will not even have been defined!

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By: Steve Moore https://6sigma.com/process-control-and-luck/#comment-25268 Mon, 03 May 2010 12:33:44 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=2057#comment-25268 Scott, I would suggest that if there were no maeningful results, then your process could not be excellent. Every system is perfectly designed to get the results that it gets.

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By: Steve Moore https://6sigma.com/process-control-and-luck/#comment-25267 Mon, 03 May 2010 12:30:20 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=2057#comment-25267 Regarding “Process Control and Luck”: Another point that should be made is that when in the “Not Controlled” state, the results often move back and forth between “got lucky” and “as expected” in an unpredictable way.

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By: Scott Edwards https://6sigma.com/process-control-and-luck/#comment-25266 Sat, 01 May 2010 15:07:54 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=2057#comment-25266 Nice summary. Process is necessary but not sufficient. I’ve been part of groups where process was excellent but there were no meaningful results. Likewise results are necessary but not sufficient. Your post is important because I think the general mindset is focus on results without much thought to process. Both are needed for success now and in the future.

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By: Frank https://6sigma.com/process-control-and-luck/#comment-25265 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:05:30 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=2057#comment-25265 Nice article. I very much enjoy these.

I totallly agree. It’s very hard to get somewhere (i.e. a quality product) if you do not have a good road map. The art of our job is to define those areas where we must standardize and where we can allow ourselves to be a little lucky sometimes.

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By: Dennis Ashendorf https://6sigma.com/process-control-and-luck/#comment-25264 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:53:11 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=2057#comment-25264 In a related field, decisions are based on the quality of decision-making, not results. Results are/can be random, but decisions are under one’s control. Buying a Lotto ticket is stupid. If it wins, the FACT that you were stupid when you bought it doesn’t change.

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