Comments on: Goodbye Customer: Customer Retention Programs and Win Back Initiatives https://6sigma.com/goodbye-customer-loyalty-costs-complexity-and-recovery/ Six Sigma Certification and Training Fri, 28 Feb 2025 06:45:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: Donna https://6sigma.com/goodbye-customer-loyalty-costs-complexity-and-recovery/#comment-25179 Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:25:02 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=1429#comment-25179 Agree that experience is everything. Some companies seem to hate their customers so much they make you sorry you were ever dumb enough to do business with them.

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By: Donna https://6sigma.com/goodbye-customer-loyalty-costs-complexity-and-recovery/#comment-25178 Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:16:45 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=1429#comment-25178 In reply to Dan Markovitz.

I don’t think the Zappo’s model quite fits this idea that the customer interaction wtih the company is because something is wrong. Buying shoes can be difficult even in a brick and mortar store. Zappo’s doesn’t require you to talk to somebody to make a purchase – they make it terribly easy to make a buy decision without talking to somebody – but if you need to talk to somebody, unlike most other companies, they are very happy to spend as much time as you need or want to make sure the product is right for you.

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By: Sendsider https://6sigma.com/goodbye-customer-loyalty-costs-complexity-and-recovery/#comment-25177 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:49:53 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=1429#comment-25177 Experience is everything in customer relationships.

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By: Shaun Moran https://6sigma.com/goodbye-customer-loyalty-costs-complexity-and-recovery/#comment-25176 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:25:15 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=1429#comment-25176 Every business process exists in order to attain a goal. In some cases a touch point can be considered a defect because it is needed in order complete that particular instance of the business process e.g. helping a customer complete a payment transaction.On the other hand some business processes have the customer touch point built into the process as it is required to execute the business process without defect and get the org closer to it’s goal e.g a customer phones a home shopping Channel. It all depends on knowing what the outcome (ouput) of the interaction with the customer will be and what the effect the interaction will have on the customer. My 2 cents.

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By: Tim https://6sigma.com/goodbye-customer-loyalty-costs-complexity-and-recovery/#comment-25175 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:39:48 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=1429#comment-25175 The shmula Recovery Function is damn fantastic. It makes sense. What is amazing is that the probability of establishing a relationship goes down the more touches there, which is contrary to popular view, but you make a very strong case for it.

Another thing is that each of the groups attempting to recover the customer relationship probably don’t even know each other or are aware of each others’ efforts — they don’t coordinate. This is certainly true at my company, the biggest internet auction house in the world — eBay. But, then again, eBay is full of the smartest people in the world who don’t know how to do anything 🙂 —

eBay sucks — we all miss you shmula, we’re all drowning at eBay since you quit. Quitting eBay was one of the smartest things you ever did — everybody hates working here, but stays anyway. Nice working environment, huh?

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By: Brad Fredricks https://6sigma.com/goodbye-customer-loyalty-costs-complexity-and-recovery/#comment-25174 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:16:01 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=1429#comment-25174 brilliant execution of example.

Thanks for that golden nugget.

B

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By: Dan Markovitz https://6sigma.com/goodbye-customer-loyalty-costs-complexity-and-recovery/#comment-25173 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:46:47 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=1429#comment-25173 It’s true that Zappos goes out of their way to make customer interaction enjoyable, but I’d argue that the Amazon approach is better: customers don’t want to have to interact with the company. If they do have to, yes, it should be enjoyable and easy. But most people (at least the people I know) don’t want to be friends with Tony Hsieh or Jeff Bezos or Phil Knight: they want their product/service and never want to think about it again.

A consumer contacts the company because something is *wrong*, not because something is right. If you can eliminate all the wrong stuff, customers won’t need to call, and you won’t have to work so hard to make the subsequent interactions easy and pleasant — because there won’t be any.

Taking this line of logic to the nth degree, spending money on making those interactions as easy as can be is a waste of money that the customer doesn’t want to pay for. After all, if it’s right the first time, you don’t need such a fancy call center with so many employees.

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By: Greg Glockner https://6sigma.com/goodbye-customer-loyalty-costs-complexity-and-recovery/#comment-25172 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:24:58 +0000 https://opexlearning.com/resources/?p=1429#comment-25172 I can see how this will work for interactions that are not face-to-face, such as online or phone. Where does this go for face-to-face customer interaction – retail, banking, hospitality, travel, or even government agencies?

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